Account A
10 %- Allotted volume
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- Result before success fee
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- Fee threshold / HWM
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- Fee for success
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- Result after success fee
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- Rate of return by success fee
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- Account value after that
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Managed Accounts · Interactive Declaration
One manager order, multiple investors: how volume, profits, losses and success fees are distributed – and why accounts can be charged differently.
A manager decides to buy or sell an instrument. Several investors have empowered them to manage their accounts. Allocation software translates the central trading decision into shares for the participating accounts.
The trading decision – and according to a set rule, the volume as well as the result. Investors do not automatically share the same legal account structure or the same percentage risk.
MAM stands for Multi-Account Manager; this designation is used by the technical documentation used here. Under the mentioned term MAMM we treat this multi-account management. PAMM is, inter alia, Percent Allocation Management Modules denoted by reference. Providers use different variants of designation and construction.
Both names describe technical organizational and distribution models. They are not a statement about a guaranteed return, a permitted administrative activity or a specific legal form.
In the simple PAMM example, investors A hold 10 %, B 30 % and C 60 % of the capital taken into account. A central order and its result will be distributed accordingly. In the case of identical execution, all receive the same percentage development before different fees.
A MAM can control several accounts centrally and use different rules: for example, capital proportional, fixed volume shares or individually weighted shares. Two investors can therefore get the same strategy with different levels of charge on their account.
The limit is not sharp: A MAM can also distribute capital proportionally and thus generate the same calculation as our PAMM example. For its part, PAMM does not necessarily mean that money is legally in a single common fund. Decisive are contracts, account management and the concrete technical solution.
An identical lot size on a $1,000 and a $6,000 account takes the smaller account relatively stronger. Capital-proportional volumes compensate for this difference in the simplified model; they do not eliminate trade risk.
Start with PAMM. Then compare the same lots or the weighted MAM rule. All results refer to a completed example period without deposits or withdrawals.
PAMM: Account Value / Sum of Account Values
The calculation shall be updated in the event of a change.
The volume distribution in the diagram is a didactic assignment, not a universal technical order. Providers can allocate trades or results at different times. Fractions of lots are counted here without trade rounding. The overall result is a separate assumption: a change in master volume does not calculate a new price movement or return. Spread, commission and financing are considered already included in the entered result; further management fees and taxes are missing.
The percentages are 10 %, 30 % and 60 %. Out of 10 lots, 1, 3 and 6 lots are A, B and C. A result of €1,000 is distributed as €100, €300 and €600.
With 20% success fee and a threshold on the respective starting value, 20 €, 60 € and 120 € are incurred. Investors are left with €80, €240 and €480 – each 8% of the starting value.
At € 1,000 loss, the example spreads −100 €, −300 € and −600 €. A success fee does not apply in our rule. Other ongoing fees could still arise; they are not included in the simulation.
The same lot number per account, on the other hand, would distribute the total result to one third each. In the event of a loss, the same amount of euro would be account A relatively significantly stronger than account C. This is a comparison with a fixed total volume and the same assumed total result.
One High Water Mark is an agreed reference for the success fee. In our model, only the positive amount above the previous threshold is paid. Example: An account starts at $1,000 after losses, the previous threshold is $1,200. If it rises to 1,100 €, there is no success fee despite a positive period result.
The simulation uses: Fee = Set × max(0, account value before fee − High-Water-Mark). The minimum threshold here is the starting value. Billing is done once at the end of the example; no subsequent period is simulated.
In real contracts, among other things, reference period, settlement time, hurdle rate, deposits and withdrawals as well as the treatment of a change of manager must be checked. A deposit must not be misunderstood as a trading profit in the results analysis. The simulator formula is its own illustration, not a reproduction of a specific fee agreement.
ESMA shall address loss recovery and HWM models in its guidelines for UCITS and certain AIFs. This explains the concept, but does not automatically make these fund guidelines applicable to every MAM/PAMM agreement.
| Role | Function | Decisive demarcation |
|---|---|---|
| Investors | Provides capital and agrees powers, limits and remuneration. | Carries the economic results of his account; a manager does not replace the risk of loss. |
| Manager | Makes trading decisions within its powers. | Trade power of attorney and power to pay out are different rights. |
| Brokers | Account management and execution according to the concrete contract model. | Broker permission and manager permission must be considered separately. |
| Allocation software | Calculates or transmits the allocation. | It does not automatically assess the suitability of the strategy or the trustworthiness of the manager. |
Check whether the power of attorney is actually limited to trading, who can debit fees and where withdrawals can be made. From the label MAM or PAMM, no general payout lock for the manager can be derived.
“Pool” can mean a technical summary of trading volume. Whether there are individual accounts, a collection structure or a legally organized fund, answer the account contracts and the actual money management.
Weighting: The MAM example rule multiplies account values with freely selected factors and distributes a fixed master volume accordingly. This is not a certified “equal risk” method. A larger factor means only a larger relative share in the example.
Design: Minimum volume, lot increments, margin, late execution and deviating prices can affect accounts differently. The invoice assumes an identical instrument, complete execution, equal prices and exactly proportional results.
Change in capital: New deposits, payouts and already open positions change the calculation basis. Decisive are valuation time, equity or balance and the rules for joining and leaving.
Incentives: Success compensation involves the manager in the positive result without automatically imposing the same euro loss on him. Volume-based remuneration can create an incentive for more trade. The manager’s equity can approximate interests, but it does not guarantee diligence or success.
Proof of results: Return alone is not enough. Drawdown, open risks, costs, capital movements and actual payouts are all part of the assessment. A smooth chart is not proof of a sustainable strategy.
Whether a service constitutes authorised portfolio management or another activity depends on its actual powers, products and jurisdiction. The technology label does not decide this.
For Copy Trading, the FCA explains that automatic execution can be categorised as portfolio management without an individual decision of the client; if each transaction requires a client decision, the assessment is different. ESMA shall address such boundaries and supervisory expectations in its copy trading briefing of 2023. These are comparison standards, not a blanket classification of all MAM/PAMM offers.
For a specific offer, the legal person of the manager, scope of permission, power of attorney, customer protection and cross-border service provision must be examined individually.
Signal generators and copy service can transfer a strategy to other accounts. MAM/PAMM describes the central administration and allocation here. Automation and delegation can overlap; the rights and execution rules decide.
After or in connection with customer execution, the broker can carry its market risk internally or hedge it externally. This is regardless of whether the customer order was triggered manually, by an EA or by a manager.
“PAMM” therefore does not mean “A-Book”. “MAM” proves neither external execution nor internal counteraction. The manager management and the risk treatment of the broker are at different levels.
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The sources show different concrete implementations. The site explains mechanics and testing tasks; it does not recommend a provider and does not claim general standardization.
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Sources & scope
Technical manufacturer documentation; concrete MAM implementation, not a universal standard. In particular, allocation by volume, balance and equity.
Open the source ↗Provider description: managed accounts, power of attorney and proportional allocation. No provider recommendation.
Open the source ↗Provider example of different MAM allocation methods; advertising is not used as proof of quality.
Open the source ↗UK classification of automatic execution and customer decision; no global classification of MAM/PAMM.
Open the source ↗Supervisory briefing; legal classification depends on the actual activity.
Open the source ↗In the case of CFDs managed by a CFD provider, the CFD provider shall provide the client with the following information:
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